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-----Original Message----- <br>
From: Larry Kellogg <larry.kellogg@gmail.com><br>
Sent: 12/18/2012 1:16:32 AM <br>
To: lunar-update@mailman1.altair.com <lunar-update@mailman1.altair.com><br>
Subject: [lunar-update] The GRAIL spacecraft have ended their mission with a crash on the Moon
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<div><font face="arial, sans-serif">The GRAIL spacecraft, Ebb and Flow, have ended their mission with crashes on the Moon</font><br>
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<div style=""><font face="arial, sans-serif">If you missed the action the JPL Ustream event has been archived at:</font></div>
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<div style="">December 17, 2012</div>
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<div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Before touchdown, when the moon was in day light, LRO imaged the expected crash point and will image it again when the moon is lite. �The actual crashes occurred while the lunar ridge was in shadow. The
 little washing machine sized spacecraft were destroyed but the flash wouldn't be bright enough to have been imaged here on Earth.�</div>
<div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">(Someone can prove me wrong but having passed over a ridge on the northern part of the moon wouldn't help)</div>
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<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><a href="http://www.suntimes.com/news/nation/17077112-418/nasa-crashes-moon-probes-to-lunar-surface.html">http://www.suntimes.com/news/nation/17077112-418/nasa-crashes-moon-probes-to-lunar-surface.html</a></font><br>
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By design, the final resting place was far away from the Apollo landing sites and other historical spots on the moon.</p>
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After the double impacts, mission chief scientist Maria Zuber of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology said the spot has been named after team member Sally Ride, the first American woman in space, who died earlier this year.</p>
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NASA's GRAIL Lunar Impact Site Named for Sally Ride<br>
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NASA has named the site where twin agency spacecraft impacted the moon Monday in honor of the late astronaut Sally K. Ride, who was America's first ...<br>
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> <a href="http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/grail/news/grail20121217.html">Read More</a>
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These side-by-side, 3-D comparisons depict the unnamed lunar mountain targeted by the NASA's Gravity Recovery and Interior Laboratory (GRAIL) mission for controlled impact of the Ebb and Flow ...
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<div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px"><span style="font-size:13px">As an added bit of information about the previous Apollo liter topic I am copying an email I received from Hu Davis.</span></div>
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<div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.727272033691406px">Larry,
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<div>Re trash on the Moon, I must confess. �</div>
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<div>LM-5 did not get the benefit of the $10,000�(?)�per pound �bounty to Grumman of the "Super Weight Improvement Program (SWIP)" to reduce inert mass. �An inducement that was afforded for LM-6 and subsequent. �Thus, Lunar Module 5, Eagle, was planned to fly
 in orbit about but not to land on the Moon, as it was considered to be overweight. �</div>
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<div>My associate, Roger Hicks, and I did not like the idea of our managing the last one to not land, so we did our own inert mass reduction plan in one week - - about 18 months before its flight date - that included no bounty. �</div>
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<div>We suggested to George Low that, before closing the hatch for ascent, Neil and Buzz toss overboard the unneeded EVA back packs, hoses, descent flight plans, etc. �Then, if George refused adding even a pound of inert mass for the18 months before July 16,
 1969, we could move up the first landing from October to late July. �Something of a Sicilian offer.</div>
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<div>He did and it did. �LM-5 landed on July 20, 1969, leaving behind the Descent stage, a turned-over American flag, several lunar experiments and all of the junk they had tossed overboard in order to (barely) make the mission. �We had about 20 seconds of
 propellants remaining at shutdown, even at the reduced thrust needed for hovering flight. �Buzz reminded me of this in public a number of times, but 20 seconds is a long time in rocket parlance.</div>
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<div>During our first lunar orbit, we got what turned out to be a false report that there was a Russian spacecraft of an unknown type in lunar orbit with us. �Scary, but false!! �We were glad when Eagle landed and we found out there was not a pair of Russians
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<div>On my next Lunar Module 10, for Apollo 15, we also left behind the first lunar rover. �Thus, I must plead guilty to being a leading litter bug of the Apollo program. �I would do it again! �Two national monuments, not trash dumps!</div>
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<div>To my recollection, this story was not a part of any of the TV shows or other popular records of Apollo. �Why, I do not know, unless SWIP was considered by the policy wonks at NASA Headquarters to have been an expensive embarrassment.</div>
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<div><a href="http://www.thespaceshow.com/guest.asp?q=213">http://www.thespaceshow.com/guest.asp?q=213</a><br>
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<div><a href="http://buzzaldrin.com/space-vision/rocket_science/starbooster/">http://buzzaldrin.com/space-vision/rocket_science/starbooster/</a><br>
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<div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">You may have your own opinions as to the value of continued missions to our moon and how they should be conducted. Please feel free to drop me a line at my Gmail account.�</div>
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<div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">I am getting too old to 'Fly me to the Moon' but you or yours may want to go. (75 New Years Eve) What you find there may be tempered by what has already arrived.�</div>
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A�<b>moon landing</b>�is the arrival of a�<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacecraft" title="Spacecraft" style="text-decoration:initial;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none">spacecraft</a>�on the surface of the�<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon" title="Moon" style="text-decoration:initial;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none">Moon</a>.
 This includes both manned and unmanned (robotic) missions. The first human-made object to reach the surface of the Moon was the�<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union" title="Soviet Union" style="text-decoration:initial;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none">Soviet
 Union</a>'s�<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luna_2" title="Luna 2" style="text-decoration:initial;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none">Luna 2</a>�mission on 13 September 1959.<sup id="cite_ref-3" class="" style="line-height:1em"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_landing#cite_note-3" style="text-decoration:initial;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;white-space:nowrap">[3]</a></sup></p>
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The�<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States" title="United States" style="text-decoration:initial;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none">United States</a>'�<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_11" title="Apollo 11" style="text-decoration:initial;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none">Apollo
 11</a>�was the first manned mission to land on the Moon on 20 July 1969.<sup id="cite_ref-4" class="" style="line-height:1em"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_landing#cite_note-4" style="text-decoration:initial;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;white-space:nowrap">[4]</a></sup>�There
 have been�<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Apollo_missions#Manned_missions" title="List of Apollo missions" style="text-decoration:initial;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none">six manned U.S. landings</a>�(between 1969 and 1972) and numerous
 unmanned landings, though no soft landings have occurred since 1976.</p>
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<span style="color:rgb(102,102,102);font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Trebuchet,Verdana,sans-serif;text-align:justify;font-size:large">We hear about the amount of waste floating around space all the time. However, the biggest trash can outside of earth's atmosphere
 is in fact the moon.</span><br style="color:rgb(102,102,102);font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Trebuchet,Verdana,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:18px;text-align:justify">
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<span style="color:rgb(102,102,102);font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Trebuchet,Verdana,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:18px;text-align:justify">The moon has only been accessible for decades, rather than hundreds of years. However, in the short time available
 to humanity it is estimated that we have left over�</span><i style="color:rgb(102,102,102);font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Trebuchet,Verdana,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:18px;text-align:justify">one hundred and seventy thousand kilos</i><span style="color:rgb(102,102,102);font-family:'Trebuchet MS',Trebuchet,Verdana,sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:18px;text-align:justify">�of
 debris on the surface of our once pristine satellite. Here are some of the more notable pieces of trash on the moon.</span><font face="arial, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.499999046325684px"><br>
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 'Space Boots' and Artifacts Aren't Just Junk, Argue Archaeologists<br>
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<strong style="font-size:12px;font-style:normal">California has named the remains of the Apollo 11 mission a state historical resource -- to the delight of the young profession of space archaeologists. They fear that the trash and equipment left behind by the
 United States' journeys to the moon could someday wind up for sale on eBay if they aren't protected.</strong><br>
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<span style="line-height:18px;font-size:12px;font-family:verdana,arial,helvetica,geneva,sans-serif">There is an unwritten law in America's national parks: Carry out what you bring in.</span><br>
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<span style="line-height:18px;font-size:12px;font-family:verdana,arial,helvetica,geneva,sans-serif">When they visited the moon, though, the Americans weren't nearly as considerate or in touch with nature. Astronauts Buzz Aldrin and Neil Armstrong left behind
 more than 100 items when they left the moon on July 21, 1969, at 5:54 p.m., Earth Time. The items included four urine containers, several airsickness bags, a Hasselblad camera, lunar overshoes and a complete moon-landing step.</span></p>
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The mission was historically significant. But are the urine containers?</p>
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California historic preservationists think so. They recently registered the remains of the Apollo 11 mission in the so-called Sea of Tranquility as an "Historical Resource." The designation gave a boost to an academic discipline that has been considered irrelevant
 until now: space archaeology.</p>
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