[FPSPACE] Re Apollo Soyuz

Robert Law robert_law at yahoo.com
Sat Jul 17 18:05:14 EDT 2010

see    this   1971  study -


--- On Sat, 7/17/10, LARRY KLAES <ljk4 at msn.com> wrote:

From: LARRY KLAES <ljk4 at msn.com>
Subject: Re: [FPSPACE] Re Apollo Soyuz
To: "Mark Kramer " <markkramer1 at verizon.net>, "reeves10 at satx.rr.com " <reeves10 at satx.rr.com>, "FPSpace " <fpspace at friends-partners.org>
Date: Saturday, July 17, 2010, 6:21 PM

I remember seeing a physical model of an Apollo docked to a Salyut space station in an old Time magazine timeline of space exploration where the ASTP was supposed to be. 

Was there ever a plan to have Apollo dock with a Salyut instead of the Soyuz. Now that would have been a sight 


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-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Kramer <markkramer1 at verizon.net>
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 14:41:45 
To: <reeves10 at satx.rr.com>; <fpspace at friends-partners.org>
Subject: Re: [FPSPACE] Re Apollo Soyuz

Regarding the crew's exposure to nitrogen tetroxide late in the entry, here's an excerpt from the 
official post-flight report (http://lsda.jsc.nasa.gov/refs/apollo/ASTP_Medical_Report.pdf): 
Postflight Crew Health Status 
The following discussion of crew health status after flight includes an analysis of the 
effects of spacecraft atmosphere contamination. 
Recovery.-The U.S. crew was exposed to toxic gases (mostly nitrogen tetroxide (N2 °4 )) 
from inadvertent reaction control system (RCS) firings during the descent phase, 30 seconds 
after drogue deployment and at approximately 21: 15 :07 G.m.t. 01: 15:07 a.m. Hawaii time) 
on July 24, 1975. The N2 0 4 entered the CM through the cabin pressure relief valve, which 
was opened during the landing sequence. 
During the postlanding medical debriefing, the ACDR reported, "There was a yellowishbrown 
colored smoke which smelled like RCS. The smoke was so thick that I had a hard 
time seeing the other crewmembers or the dials in front of me. The smoke cleared very fast." 
Neither the DMP nor the CMP reported observing the yellow-brown smoke. 
Once the crew disabled the RCS, and following initial peak exposure, uncontaminated 
air was drawn into the cabin until landing occurred. Simultaneously, the lithium hydroxide 
(LiOH) scrubbers continued to absorb the nitrogen oxide mixture. 
At 21: 18: 24 G.m. t., the spacecraft landed. While the spacecraft was still in stable II 
(inverted) position, the ACDR unstrapped and fell down into the CM tunnel, hurting his 
right shoulder and elbow. He unstowed the oxygen masks and proceeded to provide oxygen 
to the crewmembers. Not until the spacecraft assumed stable I (upright) position, approximately 
3 minutes 30 seconds after landing, did the ACDR notice that the CMP's mask was 
hanging on the side of his face and that he was unconscious. From the available history, 
it appears that the CMP was unconscious for approximately 50 seconds. In retrospect, it is 
thought that the exposure to toxic fumes possibly combined with effects of the feet being 
positioned lower than the head while in stable II position could have contributed to this 
fainting episode. The CMP recovered promptly when his face mask was positioned properly 
and the oxygen flow was increased. 
Once in stable I position, the postlanding ventilation was activated, the flotation gear 
was positioned, and the CM hatch was opened. This action contributed to further improvement 
of the ventilation and removal of the noxious gases from the cabin. 
Approximately 40 minutes 50 seconds later (21: 58:44 G.m.t.), the spacecraft was 
hoisted aboard the recovery vessel U.S.S. New Orleans, and the crew exited the CM at 22:05: 
04 G.m.t. When the hatch was opened, a humid and moldy smell emanated from the CM; 
there was no detectable odor of the irritant gas. All the crewmembers appeared steady, 
slightly pale, and profusely diaphoretic. The first indication of exposure to the gas came 
later during the hangar-deck ceremony when the ACDR requested oxygen for smoke inhalation; 
the exposure event was detailed during the postflight debriefing sessions also. These 
facts were further ascertained by playback of onboard voice and data tapes. 
Mark Kramer 
914 238-8061 
917 796-9567 mobile 
markkramer1 at verizon.net <mailto:markkramer1 at verizon.net> 
From: fpspace-bounces at friends-partners.org [mailto:fpspace-bounces at friends-partners.org] On Behalf Of Robert Reeves
 Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 21:14
 To: fpspace at friends-partners.org
 Subject: Re: [FPSPACE] Re Apollo Soyuz 
One of the unsung near-misses of mannerd spaceflight occurred at the very end of the mission -- the three astronauts were very nearly killed by a sequence of crew errors during final aero descent. As far as I can tell, NASA (and the flight crew) has been very reluctant to provide full details of this. 
It was no secret that the descending Apollo had ingested vapors from thruster fuel once it was on parachute and equalizing cabin pressure.  I think Brand actually passed out from the toxic fumes and was saved by (I think) Staford getting a mask on him.  They were definitely feeling kind of punk when they exited the spacecraft. 
Robert Reeves            San Antonio, Texas
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