[FPSPACE] Re Apollo Soyuz

Anatoly Zak agzak at optonline.net
Sat Jul 17 13:27:31 EDT 2010

Absolutely, dockings of both Apollo and Shuttle with Salyut were under

Anatoly Zak

On 7/17/10 7:21 PM, "LARRY KLAES" <ljk4 at msn.com> wrote:

> I remember seeing a physical model of an Apollo docked to a Salyut space
> station in an old Time magazine timeline of space exploration where the ASTP
> was supposed to be.
> Was there ever a plan to have Apollo dock with a Salyut instead of the Soyuz.
> Now that would have been a sight
> Larry
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Kramer <markkramer1 at verizon.net>
> Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 14:41:45
> To: <reeves10 at satx.rr.com>; <fpspace at friends-partners.org>
> Subject: Re: [FPSPACE] Re Apollo Soyuz
> Regarding the crew's exposure to nitrogen tetroxide late in the entry, here's
> an excerpt from the
> official post-flight report
> (http://lsda.jsc.nasa.gov/refs/apollo/ASTP_Medical_Report.pdf):
> Postflight Crew Health Status
> The following discussion of crew health status after flight includes an
> analysis of the 
> effects of spacecraft atmosphere contamination.
> Recovery.-The U.S. crew was exposed to toxic gases (mostly nitrogen tetroxide
> (N2 °4 )) 
> from inadvertent reaction control system (RCS) firings during the descent
> phase, 30 seconds
> after drogue deployment and at approximately 21: 15 :07 G.m.t. 01: 15:07 a.m.
> Hawaii time) 
> on July 24, 1975. The N2 0 4 entered the CM through the cabin pressure relief
> valve, which 
> was opened during the landing sequence.
> During the postlanding medical debriefing, the ACDR reported, "There was a
> yellowishbrown 
> colored smoke which smelled like RCS. The smoke was so thick that I had a hard
> time seeing the other crewmembers or the dials in front of me. The smoke
> cleared very fast."
> Neither the DMP nor the CMP reported observing the yellow-brown smoke.
> Once the crew disabled the RCS, and following initial peak exposure,
> uncontaminated 
> air was drawn into the cabin until landing occurred. Simultaneously, the
> lithium hydroxide
> (LiOH) scrubbers continued to absorb the nitrogen oxide mixture.
> At 21: 18: 24 G.m. t., the spacecraft landed. While the spacecraft was still
> in stable II 
> (inverted) position, the ACDR unstrapped and fell down into the CM tunnel,
> hurting his 
> right shoulder and elbow. He unstowed the oxygen masks and proceeded to
> provide oxygen 
> to the crewmembers. Not until the spacecraft assumed stable I (upright)
> position, approximately
> 3 minutes 30 seconds after landing, did the ACDR notice that the CMP's mask
> was 
> hanging on the side of his face and that he was unconscious. From the
> available history,
> it appears that the CMP was unconscious for approximately 50 seconds. In
> retrospect, it is
> thought that the exposure to toxic fumes possibly combined with effects of the
> feet being 
> positioned lower than the head while in stable II position could have
> contributed to this
> fainting episode. The CMP recovered promptly when his face mask was positioned
> properly 
> and the oxygen flow was increased.
> Once in stable I position, the postlanding ventilation was activated, the
> flotation gear 
> was positioned, and the CM hatch was opened. This action contributed to
> further improvement
> of the ventilation and removal of the noxious gases from the cabin.
> Approximately 40 minutes 50 seconds later (21: 58:44 G.m.t.), the spacecraft
> was 
> hoisted aboard the recovery vessel U.S.S. New Orleans, and the crew exited the
> CM at 22:05: 
> 04 G.m.t. When the hatch was opened, a humid and moldy smell emanated from the
> CM; 
> there was no detectable odor of the irritant gas. All the crewmembers appeared
> steady, 
> slightly pale, and profusely diaphoretic. The first indication of exposure to
> the gas came 
> later during the hangar-deck ceremony when the ACDR requested oxygen for smoke
> inhalation; 
> the exposure event was detailed during the postflight debriefing sessions
> also. These 
> facts were further ascertained by playback of onboard voice and data tapes.
> Mark Kramer 
> 914 238-8061 
> 917 796-9567 mobile
> markkramer1 at verizon.net <mailto:markkramer1 at verizon.net>
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> [mailto:fpspace-bounces at friends-partners.org] On Behalf Of Robert Reeves
>  Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 21:14
>  To: fpspace at friends-partners.org
>  Subject: Re: [FPSPACE] Re Apollo Soyuz
> One of the unsung near-misses of mannerd spaceflight occurred at the very end
> of the mission -- the three astronauts were very nearly killed by a sequence
> of crew errors during final aero descent. As far as I can tell, NASA (and the
> flight crew) has been very reluctant to provide full details of this.
> It was no secret that the descending Apollo had ingested vapors from thruster
> fuel once it was on parachute and equalizing cabin pressure.  I think Brand
> actually passed out from the toxic fumes and was saved by (I think) Staford
> getting a mask on him.  They were definitely feeling kind of punk when they
> exited the spacecraft.
> Robert Reeves            San Antonio, Texas
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